Chuck sits down with Stanford political scientist Adam Bonica to unpack the dark underbelly of political fundraising.
In this episode of the Chuck ToddCast, Chuck sits down with Stanford political scientist Adam Bonica to unpack the dark underbelly of political fundraising. Bonica reveals how the Democratic consulting firm Mothership Strategies helped shape modern campaign fundraising — and how their tactics, often resembling internet scams, have extracted hundreds of millions from small-dollar donors, many of whom are elderly or unaware they’ve been opted into recurring donations. Together, they explore how much of that money never reaches campaigns at all, instead being funneled into consultant fees and internal operations that border on money laundering.
The conversation broadens into the systemic corruption of campaign finance: both parties’ use of apocalyptic fear-mongering, the rise of Super PACs with minimal voter impact, and how America’s extreme wealth inequality has distorted democratic accountability. Bonica explains why the public now views the very need to raise money as inherently corrupt — and how anti-corruption could be the strongest defense against authoritarian drift. As billions pour into elections with diminishing effect, Chuck and Adam question whether the next era of U.S. politics can ever be disentangled from the cash that drives it.
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Timeline:
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00:00 Adam Bonica joins the Chuck ToddCast
03:00 Fundraising tactics are beyond bizarre
05:30 Mothership strategies behind much of the Dem advertising
08:00 Democratic candidates were enamored by Mothership’s strategy
10:15 Many donors had been suffering from cognitive decline
11:30 PAC’s were basically money laundering
13:35 Most fundraising dollars were spent internally on consultants
15:00 Both parties use apocalyptic language when fundraising
17:00 Campaign fundraising using the same tactics as scammers
18:30 Political fundraisers prey on older people
20:30 Donors have to actively uncheck recurring donations
21:15 ActBlue adopted new rules after Adam’s reporting
24:00 Mothership has raised hundreds of millions of dollars
28:00 Mothership claims their fight is a “necessary evil”
31:00 The public is very concerned about corruption
31:45 Anti-corruption is the #1 anti-authoritarian strategy
33:15 Public sees the need to raise money as a form of corruption
34:45 There is so much corruptibility on the fundraising side of politics
35:30 Money spent by Super PACs has almost no effect on public opinion
36:45 Trump was outspent and still won
37:30 Democrats have fundraising advantage they are squandering
38:15 Most Republican donor money came from $1M+ earners
39:00 Democrats dominating donations from young professionals
42:00 Democrats would gain credibility advantage disavowing dark money
44:30 American wealth inequality is reaching extreme territory
46:15 Billionaires aren’t aligned with root Democratic party politics
49:15 Will we see $5B presidential elections in 2028?
50:45 There is more money per swing voter than ever
52:30 $500m will be spent on CA redistricting
55:00 Mainstream journalism rarely audits where money goes