Chuck Todd explains that voters will sour on the constant chaos of Trump’s presidency, gives his takeaways from Kamala Harris’s new book. Then, he talks with Pennsylvania Representative Chris Deluzio about the need to rein in the imperial presidency with formal guardrails and anti-corruption measures that could help restore public trust in congress.
Chuck Todd unpacks the escalating chaos around Donald Trump’s second term, from his doom-and-gloom rhetoric to the brazen decisions that have left few guardrails in place. Voters may not reject Trump’s ideas outright, but his nonstop turbulence—from shaming pregnant women over Tylenol to undermining global allies—has created deep political vulnerabilities. Todd explores how small businesses, foreign policy, and even health guidance have been rattled by Trump’s need for instability, while noting that divided government historically forces presidents to govern more broadly. The monologue also turns to Vice President Kamala Harris, whose new book reveals her frustrations with the 2020 ticket and her uneasy positioning for the future, raising tough questions about her political style and prospects.
Then, Congressman Chris Deluzio joins Chuck to talk about the political transformation of Western Pennsylvania, the challenges of running as a Democrat in a swing district, and the lessons he’s learned since succeeding Conor Lamb. From the hollowing out of factory towns to the rare but pivotal swing voters who decide elections, Deluzio reflects on the realignment that has reshaped the region’s politics. He also opens up about how 9/11 led him to serve in the Navy, why he believes American democracy is at risk, and the urgent need for reforms to restore voter trust.
The conversation also dives into big debates in Washington: partisan gerrymandering, government shutdown brinkmanship, establishing limits on presidential power, and the dangers of politicizing the military. Deluzio weighs in on rail safety after East Palestine, social media’s effect on kids, and congressional corruption—from stock trading to pay structures that keep working-class Americans from serving. Plus, Chuck gets his take on the rising cost of energy, Pittsburgh sports, and whether Democrats can win back voters by focusing squarely on economic issues.
Finally, he gives his “ToddCast Top 5” football coaches on the hot-seat and answers listeners’ questions in the “Ask Chuck” segment.
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Timeline:
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00:00 Introduction
02:45 Trump speeches create heightened sense of doom & gloom
04:00 Trump’s actions the past few weeks have been brazen
05:00 Far fewer people standing up to Trump in his second term
06:45 Voters don’t reject Trump’s ideas, they disapprove of the chaos
09:00 Trump’s political prospects are deflating every day
11:00 The last 3-4 elections have been “vote against” elections
12:45 Divided government forces presidents to govern broadly
14:30 The goal of bringing order to chaos is popular
15:00 Trump has brought nothing but chaos to health & vaccine policy
16:00 Trump & team shamed pregnant women & blamed Tylenol for autism
17:30 Trump showed no evidence to support Tylenol recommendation
18:30 Trump only tries to please his base
19:00 Trump trashes Europe and UN in speech to the UN
20:15 Trump wants constant instability & chaos
22:00 The lack of certainty is upending small businesses
23:15 Trump is incapable of preaching a message of unity
26:00 The constant chaos is Trump’s biggest political vulnerability
27:15 Voters wanted Trump 1.0, a Trump with guardrails
28:00 A voters lived experience will Trump perception
30:00 Trump’s post on Ukraine didn’t sound like it was written by Trump
31:00 Trump’s post cancelling meeting with Schumer had a Trump tone
32:30 Marco Rubio is clear eyed about the threat from Russia
34:30 Trump cancels meeting with Democrats, headed for gov’t shutdown
35:45 Trump is not interested in negotiating with Democrats
37:00 Kamala Harris reveals her true feelings in new book
38:30 Harris admits she settled for Tim Walz, Buttigieg was her first choice
40:00 The book makes it harder for her to win the presidency is the future
41:30 Harris’s style doesn’t match the mood of the voters
42:30 Harris was put in a near impossible situation
44:30 Congressman Chris Deluzio joins the Chuck ToddCast
45:15 How much has your district changed since Connor Lamb won it?
46:15 How did the Pittsburgh area swing from Democratic to Republican?
47:00 The hollowing out of factory towns was key to political realignment in PA
47:45 Who is the McCormick/Deluzio voter?
48:45 Swing voters still exist but are rare
50:30 How difficult is it to talk to voters with the "D" next to your name?
52:15 9/11 sealed Chris's decision to join the navy
54:15 We should be very concerned about the state of American democracy
55:30 Younger generations will have a worse standard of living than their parents
57:15 Democrats mixed message on redistricting
58:00 We should have a federal ban on partisan gerrymandering
58:45 Democrats can't unilaterally disarm
59:45 Gerrymandering makes it hard to earn trust back with voters
1:01:15 Senate Democrats should use their leverage in shutdown fight
1:02:15 Only open to six week extension if Republicans willing to work with Dems
1:03:30 Thoughts on Fetterman's intention to vote to fund the government
1:05:00 There's been a scrambling of the centrist & progressive wings of the party
1:06:30 The fissure in the party is more about fighting than ideology
1:07:15 Fighting the imperial presidency is the priority
1:09:00 We need to put limits on the executive to prevent overreach
1:10:15 We can't be at the mercy of the whims of the president
1:10:45 Kash Patel's FBI shut down investigation into Tom Homan taking cash bribe
1:12:00 We need to formal guardrails and can't rely on norms
1:12:45 Trump's efforts to politicize the naval academy and military
1:14:30 Efforts to politicize the military are dangerous and erode trust
1:15:15 Military lawyers ignored,extrajudicial killings in Caribbean are illegal
1:17:15 Presidents have abused war powers for years, Congress needs to intervene
1:18:30 Defense is one of the few areas of bipartisan cooperation
1:19:15 Republicans willing to work on rail safety after East Palestine derailment
1:20:45 Can congress work together on internet/social media safety for kids?
1:21:45 Banning smartphones in classrooms has 80/20 support
1:23:15 There's a huge concentration of power in tech and media
1:24:15 It's harder for a president to bully a diverse market that isn't consolidated
1:25:45 Voters agree that there's corruption, but they think all politicians are corrupt
1:26:45 We should ban congressional stock trading, corruption breeds distrust
1:28:00 Congress deserve pay raise in exchange for stock trading ban
1:30:45 You shouldn't have to be wealthy to serve in congress
1:31:30 Working class candidates need to be supported
1:32:15 Can Democrats drop cultural issues and purely run on economics?
1:34:00 The rise in energy bills could become a huge issue in coming months
1:35:00 The Big Beautiful Bill will make the energy prices problem worse
1:36:00 Tempted to go to the Steelers game in Ireland?
1:37:30 Pittsburgh Pirates ownership issue
1:39:30 More PSU or Pitt fans in your district?
1:40:30 ToddCast Top 5 football coach hot seats
1:41:00 Mike Gundy fired by Oklahoma State
1:43:30 #1 Mike McDaniel of the Miami Dolphins
1:44:30 #2 Brian Callahan of the Tennessee Titans
1:45:30 #3 Luke Fickell of Wisconsin
1:47:15 #4 Dabo Swinney of Clemson
1:50:15 #5 Billy Napier of Florida + Honorable mentions
1:54:00 Ask Chuck
1:54:15 Why has the term "writ large" become used so much in news & podcasts?
2:01:00 Are journalists who stay silent in face of authoritarianism showing cowardice?
2:05:00 Shrinkflation showing up now at Costco